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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://politics.upnorthmommy.com/2008/12/founder-of-weather-channel-to-sue-al-gore/comment-page-1/#comment-797</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If DDT is so effective, why doesn’t Nigeria just poison the hell out of its own nation? Who is stopping them?&lt;/i&gt;

The UN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If DDT is so effective, why doesn’t Nigeria just poison the hell out of its own nation? Who is stopping them?</i></p>
<p>The UN.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://politics.upnorthmommy.com/2008/12/founder-of-weather-channel-to-sue-al-gore/comment-page-1/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a somewhat more calm response, take a look here:
http://www.irishleftreview.org/2008/12/15/story-told-irish-media-reports-climate-change/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a somewhat more calm response, take a look here:<br />
<a href="http://www.irishleftreview.org/2008/12/15/story-told-irish-media-reports-climate-change/" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishleftreview.org/2008/12/15/story-told-irish-media-reports-climate-change/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://politics.upnorthmommy.com/2008/12/founder-of-weather-channel-to-sue-al-gore/comment-page-1/#comment-795</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do I remember the ban on DDT?  Indeed I do.

I think it is the height of irresponsibility to claim that the DDT &quot;ban&quot; did anything other than save the bald eagle, the brown pelican, osprey, peregrine falcons, and our environment.  That&#039;s what all the evidence says.

Did our stopping the use of DDT on cotton in Texas really cause malaria to explode in Africa?  No, that&#039;s completely bizarre, and false.  DDT had already stopped being effective against mosquitoes due to overuse in agriculture by the mid-1960s.  WHO abandoned its program to eradicate malaria because the agricultural overuse had made the goal impossible, by 1965.  The U.S. and Sweden banned the agricultural use of DDT in 1972, seven years later.  

Is there a shred of evidence that says DDT is magically effective now, where it was not before?  No.

So, what hoaxster claims DDT is a magic bullet?

There were dozens, maybe hundreds of scientific reports on DDT by 1972.  Each and every one of them documented the harms.  Two federal courts ordered EPA to get off its duff and study new restrictions.  EPA dragged its feet for another year, compiling a 9,000-page record that said DDT was deadly to all wildlife, uncontrollable in the wild, increasingly ineffective against pests, and probably a cancer causative agent, too.  

Who says otherwise?  Does this fellow from Nigeria actually expect us to believe that Idi Amin in Uganda bowed at the altar of Rachel Carson and stopped spraying DDT because he was convinced he could save birds?  Does he really expect us to understand that his own government, accused of many human rights violations, decided they would like to save birds in America with scant evidence of success, and so sacrificed Nigerians?  

Might he be a little bit in error?

Recent studies confirm that there are many other things necessary to control mosquitoes, and malaria, than simply spraying DDT -- and using the other control methods works better, with lower cost, with much less environmental damage, with much less morbidity and mortality in humans, than poisoning Africa with DDT.

It&#039;s outrageous that anyone would take such obviously false claims at face value, and impugn the reputation of a great scientist like Rachel Carson.  It is precisely this sort of propaganda-quality diatribe that keeps effective solutions from being acted upon.  If it were true that we could poison Africa to health, don&#039;t you think Africans would have done it already?  There is even a special provision of the Persistent Organic Pesticides Treaty that keeps DDT available for use against malaria.  U.S. law has had the same exception since 1972.  

If DDT is so effective, why doesn&#039;t Nigeria just poison the hell out of its own nation?  Who is stopping them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do I remember the ban on DDT?  Indeed I do.</p>
<p>I think it is the height of irresponsibility to claim that the DDT &#8220;ban&#8221; did anything other than save the bald eagle, the brown pelican, osprey, peregrine falcons, and our environment.  That&#8217;s what all the evidence says.</p>
<p>Did our stopping the use of DDT on cotton in Texas really cause malaria to explode in Africa?  No, that&#8217;s completely bizarre, and false.  DDT had already stopped being effective against mosquitoes due to overuse in agriculture by the mid-1960s.  WHO abandoned its program to eradicate malaria because the agricultural overuse had made the goal impossible, by 1965.  The U.S. and Sweden banned the agricultural use of DDT in 1972, seven years later.  </p>
<p>Is there a shred of evidence that says DDT is magically effective now, where it was not before?  No.</p>
<p>So, what hoaxster claims DDT is a magic bullet?</p>
<p>There were dozens, maybe hundreds of scientific reports on DDT by 1972.  Each and every one of them documented the harms.  Two federal courts ordered EPA to get off its duff and study new restrictions.  EPA dragged its feet for another year, compiling a 9,000-page record that said DDT was deadly to all wildlife, uncontrollable in the wild, increasingly ineffective against pests, and probably a cancer causative agent, too.  </p>
<p>Who says otherwise?  Does this fellow from Nigeria actually expect us to believe that Idi Amin in Uganda bowed at the altar of Rachel Carson and stopped spraying DDT because he was convinced he could save birds?  Does he really expect us to understand that his own government, accused of many human rights violations, decided they would like to save birds in America with scant evidence of success, and so sacrificed Nigerians?  </p>
<p>Might he be a little bit in error?</p>
<p>Recent studies confirm that there are many other things necessary to control mosquitoes, and malaria, than simply spraying DDT &#8212; and using the other control methods works better, with lower cost, with much less environmental damage, with much less morbidity and mortality in humans, than poisoning Africa with DDT.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s outrageous that anyone would take such obviously false claims at face value, and impugn the reputation of a great scientist like Rachel Carson.  It is precisely this sort of propaganda-quality diatribe that keeps effective solutions from being acted upon.  If it were true that we could poison Africa to health, don&#8217;t you think Africans would have done it already?  There is even a special provision of the Persistent Organic Pesticides Treaty that keeps DDT available for use against malaria.  U.S. law has had the same exception since 1972.  </p>
<p>If DDT is so effective, why doesn&#8217;t Nigeria just poison the hell out of its own nation?  Who is stopping them?</p>
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		<title>By: Karin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please let it be true that Gore will be sued for this!  Although I am not a scientist, I also believe that the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling.  When you look at the amazing vastness of space, it would be pretty laughable to think that a few gases could have much effect on it.
My husband used to work for an appliance manufacturer and as an engineer, he had to help come up with ways to eliminate the use of freon in refrigerators.  At the time, he thought it was absurd.  It ended up costing companies tons of money to come up with an alternative source of coolant - all because of an unproven theory. 
 
I wasn&#039;t aware of the DDT-Malaria connection in Africa.  That is outrageous!!!  I find it amazing that the Democrats have convinced people that they are the &#039;party who cares&#039; about the poor.  When rubber meets the road, they don&#039;t give a RIP.  It&#039;s all about power and their socialist agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please let it be true that Gore will be sued for this!  Although I am not a scientist, I also believe that the earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling.  When you look at the amazing vastness of space, it would be pretty laughable to think that a few gases could have much effect on it.<br />
My husband used to work for an appliance manufacturer and as an engineer, he had to help come up with ways to eliminate the use of freon in refrigerators.  At the time, he thought it was absurd.  It ended up costing companies tons of money to come up with an alternative source of coolant &#8211; all because of an unproven theory. </p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware of the DDT-Malaria connection in Africa.  That is outrageous!!!  I find it amazing that the Democrats have convinced people that they are the &#8216;party who cares&#8217; about the poor.  When rubber meets the road, they don&#8217;t give a RIP.  It&#8217;s all about power and their socialist agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I guess I should clarify that. Dh thinks that it&#039;s not necessarily man made, as the environmentalists claim. Can we be better stewards of the planet? Yes. Can we stop &quot;global warming?&quot; No. In fact, water vapor is the number one greenhouse gas. What causes water vapor? Evaporation of water. Nothing can be done about that at all. Both he and I believe that humans impact on the environment is minuscule compared to things that we have no control over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I guess I should clarify that. Dh thinks that it&#8217;s not necessarily man made, as the environmentalists claim. Can we be better stewards of the planet? Yes. Can we stop &#8220;global warming?&#8221; No. In fact, water vapor is the number one greenhouse gas. What causes water vapor? Evaporation of water. Nothing can be done about that at all. Both he and I believe that humans impact on the environment is minuscule compared to things that we have no control over.</p>
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		<title>By: Trisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband is one of those scientists (he&#039;s a meteorologist). He doesn&#039;t think it&#039;s a hoax, he thinks it&#039;s one of those cyclical things. The earth goes through cycles of both warming an cooling. We should be good stewards of the planet, but the whole carbon credit thing is ridiculous (my thoughts, not necessarily dh&#039;s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband is one of those scientists (he&#8217;s a meteorologist). He doesn&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a hoax, he thinks it&#8217;s one of those cyclical things. The earth goes through cycles of both warming an cooling. We should be good stewards of the planet, but the whole carbon credit thing is ridiculous (my thoughts, not necessarily dh&#8217;s).</p>
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